Striped Bass Managers Shoot Down Quota Increase

At Tuesday’s Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission (ASMFC) meeting in Alexandria, Virginia, the Striped Bass Management Board rejected a consideration to liberalize striper regulations. The motion had been initiated in response to complaints raised by Chesapeake Bay jurisdictions regarding economic hardship since the implementation of harvest reductions for the 2015 season.

The motion was voted down 10-5 with New Jersey voting with Virginia, Maryland, Delaware, and the PRFC in favor of the motion.

  1. Marcuswelby

    A no brainer! Why would the quota be increased when the striper population is on the decline.

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    • Max Chronister

      Dude it’s not on the decline, the population has been coming back for years. It just got back to normal in 2016

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      • Love Shaq

        It is on a rebound but I wouldn’t go as far to say it as back to normal

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      • Dave Strelitz

        It’s definitely on the decline in northern New England, not even a shadow of the numbers we used to catch.

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      • Robert

        I have been here in new England for 17 yrs, cali tuna deck hand was my past, when I first arrived in 2000, the cod fishing was in swing, huge cod on eastmans, 30-50, and now, only smallys, regarding the stirper, it good one yr, and not so good the next, I’m in NH, and have caught nothing over 25lbs. I believe the seals are to blam, there was never seals in the harbor, now there everywhere, who to blame, Great Whites????

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      • Vince

        The striped bass population is definitely not on the decline. If anything the aggregate population is increasing and is probably at it’s highest in decades. The only caveat is that the “Mass Bios” population is lower than expected. Hence, the big females that we recreational fishermen need to slaughter for the Striper Cup!

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    • Robert

      I have wondered over the years about the accuracy of them arriving, example, I just called a good source that is a tackle shop, I have been looking for the stripers since the start of may, they told me another Week atleast?, today, they are saying that they are here, is it that the big wigs are wanting us to get our gear, or buy new jigs for there profit, I’m just wondering, cause ive seen a pattern here. JUST WONDERING, not here to get anyone upset

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      • Capt brian williams

        Im a fishing guide in NJ (embarassing since they voted yes) and im on the side of conservation, definately a bad idea to open it up more. Cant catch em again if you kill them. #letthemgoletthemgrow

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        • Frank bass

          Decline thst guy better check his hook the barb must have broke off?

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  2. J

    I think we should stop spring striper fishing. Since that is when they spawn, let them spawn. Stop commercial harvesting and stop winter season. This should bring stripers back within 2 years. Then back to 2 over 28″ and a bonus tag. 3 striper is plenty for anyone trip.

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    • Matt

      Just ban killing all the fish over 35″ (most likely females ) should be run like the Migratory Bird Act

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      • Noel

        i think a like 28-35ish slot with tags for a few trophy over 35 would make sense

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  3. Jobo Jr

    No one should be allowed to keep stripers. Eat and make money off other fish

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  4. Colin

    Aren’t they liberal enough? 1 a day at 28″ is more than generous. We should be more concerned about managing the species for all future decades/centuries. That won’t happen if we eat everything that moves now.

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      • DONALD STEINER

        Agreed leave stripers off the commercial fishing list. I say we get rid of trawlers to stick to rod and reel

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    • Robert Pazdan

      What about the people who can only get out to fish once a week ,or two .
      Is that fair that they should spend a lot of money on a boat, gas for the car and the boat , rods , reels , fishing line , hooks , and all the different types of tackle to try to catch Stripers and only be allowed to keep one , I don’t think so . It’s easy for you to say if your one of the lucky ones who have access to the shore every day, and can access the beach with two good legs .unfortunately so e of us can’t do that for one reason or another, so two fish would be very welcome .

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      • Ryan

        Robert what ever happened to the reason we fish is for the love of the sport, do you think people only fish just to eat them. We spend all this money on gear and tackle because we love to fish, we love to catch stripers, we love being outdoors. I myself only get to fish weekends as I work a ton during the week, and yes I like to take a fish home here and there for the dinner table, but eating them is not only what it’s about.

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        • Jim

          I agree. Like to eat one here and there but it’s the fishing we really enjoy. Black Sea bass taste better anyway:) The quota should go back to 1 under 28″.

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      • Kyle

        What a stupid argument, thousands of people spend millions of dollars for bass boats , gear and never keep a fish! Thousands of people catch millions of trout and do all they can to release them alive. Put the sport back in sport fishing catch and release. Sell your boat and take up knitting!

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      • Bill

        The issue is, every single day, every single fisherman can only get out to fish once a week or two. Because for purposes of management, you are just like everyone else and everyone else is just like you.

        The easy to understand example is, the individuals on a given charter boat go fishing once per year and catch their limits. But that charter boat goes out with a full boat of people every single day, and sometimes 2 or 3 times per day with a full boat of people who go out and catch their limit. If you double the limit of fish, those individuals who went out on their once per year trip get twice the fish, but so does everyone else. Meaning you exactly double the total number of fish caught. At this point, the fishery just can’t handle that increase.

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      • AZ

        Robert…I have been fishing from Chappaquiddick for over 30 years. Thanks to various regulations we all have a better chance today to catch a striper or a blue fin tuna whether you fish once a week or everyday. I remember when guys would haul-in a dozen or two bluefish in the 7-12 pound range and throw them in the back of a pickup on Wasque. Never a thought about catch and release. Nobody can do that today because the blues are not that plentiful and not that size. The limits that exist today are the result of the wanton taking of the lives of fish by heedless men in the years before. We all need to support sensible fishing behaviors if we want to continue to enjoy our sport. I hope you’ll understand.

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      • Matt

        And what about all those that spend money to be able to catch the fish in the future , but now it is killed off because of poor regulations . I have fished for this great fish for 45 years. In the 1970s ,you were lucky to catch one from the surf no matter how many days you went . It’s not about the kill it’s about the thrill of the bite .

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      • ZG

        Sort of a silly argument. This regulation is for the protection of the future of the striper population. I live 4 hours from the ocean and still wouldn’t keep one. You can buy fish at the supermarket, these fish are too special.

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    • Robert Pazdan

      What about the people who can only get out to fish once a week ,or two .
      Is that fair that they should spend a lot of money on a boat, gas for the car and the boat , rods , reels , fishing line , hooks , and all the different types of tackle to try to catch Stripers and only be allowed to keep one , I don’t think so . It’s easy for you to say if your one of the lucky ones who have access to the shore every day, and can access the beach with two good legs .unfortunately some of us can’t do that for one reason or another, so two fish would be very welcome .

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      • Redtop BULL

        Poor baby, find a different job if your crying about geting out 1x/2x a week. The fish are more important alive than dead. If you’re solely into fishing to fill up your freezer, get a BJ’s card and buy it

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      • fishnphreak

        I agree with you Robert. The 2 fish limit was great. I don’t even bother anymore for just one fish. The catch and release trolls are all upset at you. If they want to release fish, fine for them. Just keep out of my business. If I can’t eat it, I’m not fishing for it.

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  5. G.R.D

    I agree with Colin. Commercial fisherman have been screwing things up for recreational guys for too long! But at the same time recreational fisherman need to think about the entire future of the great sport of striped bass fishing, not just there greedy hunger for the flavor of striped bass. Keep a maximum of 5 per year if you really have to. No more. Put an end to stripers being targeted for fish market value. Help these wonderful fish make a comeback and thrive for centuries to come!

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    • Ken

      Recreational fisherman far outnumber commercial fisherman and kill more stripers than commercial fisherman do. We do not kill these fish lightly. This is our livelihood no one is more interested in conserving species than commercial fisherman. To me, catching, injuring and accidentally killing a percentage of the fish you release in the name of “sport” is stupid and wasteful. Why is your sport more important than my livelihood?

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    • Frank bass

      Yeah yojr a one sided coin what about pollution? Bet you never sprayed for bugs around your house or killed a few weeds it all washes down into the nreedimg grounds of the rivers

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  6. Michael

    You people habe not a clue , do you understand you can’t hurt a population via rod and reel , this year was a slow year due to the warm temps the fish moved in and out already, point number to how many days were you able to fish this season ? Mother nature will take care of here own , juvenile stocks are way up , and let’s not forget about the omega boats taking all the bait ,,, idiots

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    • Bill

      You are entirely, completely, 100% wrong. Recreational fishing takes more fish by numbers and by weight for most managed fish stocks. Now, if you leave the fish alone for a few years, they will rebound in numbers. Where as commercial fishermen can actually permanently damage a fish stock by dragging nets through habitat and decreasing the stocks below viability standards. However, that is rare and usually requires additional factors (i.e. winter flounder in Narragansett Bay).

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      • Frank bass

        No one mentions pollution your all so wrong about fisherman probably cause you pollute without even knowing it keep them.lawns green and dont forget to spray for bugs bass eggs love that

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  7. Blake

    Commercial fishing for striped bass should be cut in half. After all unlike a farmer they do not own the water. Politicians should not listen to sob stories of waterman associations.

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    • Frank bass

      Where do you live the take is so small here the guys dont even go after them

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  8. Keith A.

    I agree with Colin, just keep it 1 fish 28″- Wish we had more Enforcement Officers. I see lots of people catching anything and everything with no regard to laws or fishing ethics. I also think the daily limit for Blue fish is way to liberal. Just my thoughts- Thanks

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    • Frank bass

      Instead of saying liberal all the time be men and just say communist there that didnt hurt truth be told

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    • Frank bass

      Hell no thats where the license money should be going we just use green peace advocates to thrash our lifes with pencils to many laws and no answers you make a good point fish breeding would seriously help with the main problem here witch of course is pollution!

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  9. Jeff

    The poaching has been sickening on the Cape this spring. Report poachers in MA at 1-800-632-8075. They have been very responsive and even call you back to tell you what they found out.

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    • Frank bass

      If i see someone doing wrong i tell them not the cops but then again im.a human not a rat.

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  10. Christopher

    maybe we should try one year on, one year off. The on years we can keep one fish a day, the off years, no one keeps any fish any size. And mandate the use of barbless hooks on artificals and circle hooks for the bait folks. I’ve been using barbless for years and if I keep a tight line I don’t lose the fish.

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  11. Steve

    Gentlemen,
    The bottom line is that there is a hardship on the bass populations and there ability to procreate.
    I have caught over 100o bass the past decade and have probably kept 20 for friends. I preach catch/release and use circle and or barbless hooks. Sportfishing says it all, fishing for sport. Sustain the population and we can enjoy for a lifetime. Ultra conservative is extreme but a necessity. Tightlines.

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  12. Chris Carlson

    If striped bass stocks are truly on the upside that’s Great! But increasing limits makes no sense at all. It’s all about greed. Personally 1 fish over 36″ is what I think is a reasonable limit. 2 or 3 fish a day is so overkill. That’s a lot of fillets. Bring a camera,a picture lasts longer than a fillet.

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  13. Wickedsmahtkid

    Robert Pazdan, stop buying rods, reels, tackle, don’t drive to the ocean and don’t get your fishing license and don’t spend another nickel on fishing. Go to the market and buy your fish there.
    The rest of you, catch and release!
    FISH ON !

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    • Frank bass

      Go to the store ok my communist liberal socialist whatever i say do what you want go catch and eat like they have for thousands of years until yuppies were invented

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  14. SurfCat

    Also everyone needs to realize that just because you’ve had a good year so far, or even a good past two years, it does not mean the fish population has recovered, and is not necessarily even a guaranteed indicator that it is on the rise. It means that there was one or two healthy spawn years in the past and you’re seeing those fish now. Data needs to be looked at over a longer period than the average recreational fisherman considers in order to make a valid assessment. Regardless, throw ’em back! Especially if they’re in the breeding size class! Do you like this sport, this fishery? Do you want to continue to have fish to catch? Do you want your kids, your grandkids to be able to catch bass? Then don’t be a meat fishing jamoke who keeps a fish a day regardless of whether you’ll eat it all or not.

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    • Frank bass

      Once again live your own life leave me alone i like eating fresh fish just hope the pollution. In these rivers dont kill us all

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  15. Ken

    Would like to see circle hooks required for all bait fishing for stripers. Too many gut hooked fish released especially while using clams. Would also like to see the so called “boat limits” eliminated.

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  16. Trini

    Catch and release reminder: don’t hang a fish over 15lbs vertically by the jaw. I.e./ Boga grip

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    • Frank bass

      What r u on what do you think it will rip apart? That fish is tougher than you will.ever understand obviously left fields a good spot for you to play ball

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  17. Bobby bucktails

    The reports off the party boats kill me! 30 big fish on the deck dead meanwhile im basically giving mouth to mouth to the fish to live another day and keeping about 5 fish a year. Also you cant make the limits more liberal just bc you have a hard time getting out and spend money on gear! Thats insane! We need a slot thats like 28″ or even smaller to around 36″ send the rest back. Maybe a trophy tag. Some guys put an incredible amount of time to bag a 50lb.

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  18. Ripper

    Enact more rigorous limits on both commercial and party boats. Make fines more impactful for fishing without a license. Limit of line in the water per fisherman. Capital punishment for possession of baby stripers.

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  19. Bill

    I just decided I’m going to say this every time a striped bass article comes up. We need to move striped bass to a tag system like they do with deer hunting. It would make everything easier. You only fish once or twice per year? Great! You can catch all 5 fish on the same day, as long as you have enough tags. Fish daily? Great, you can keep one fish per day. EPOs can patrol easier, because fishing for stripers without tags in possession would be prima fascia evidence of striper fishing. Management becomes easier because they only sell the number of tags equal to the number of harvestable fish. You would also eliminate the size limits entirely. If you want to use your tags on a schoolie, go for it. A big cow? Sure.

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    • Frank bass

      Why cause you said so how about this only eat beans theres no limit on them.and you can use the gas to power your grill that will have no fish on it?

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  20. Marc Gilbert

    The only early big stripers we see here in Maine, are ones that winter over and stay away from the slaughter states.

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  21. chris

    Just move to a slot already. No reason to kill a breeder fish over 36″ the meat is average and does not freeze well and there’s a lot that winds up in the garbage or under a rose bush. 1 fish 28 – 36″ pp / per day would be OK as long as they don’t increase the commercial quotas. There are too many people extracting too many fish.

    And our new secretary of commerce said at his confirmation hearing he wants the US to become a NET EXPORTER of seafood. Madness. Yeah lets vacuum up what’s left and deep freeze ship it to China.

    Someone mentioned cod earlier – the commercial ground fish situation is beyond critical, commercial limits need to be tightened – NOT LOOSENED for f sake. I would love to see cod be exclusively hook and line. The sight of draggers going by fills me with anxiety and dread with the thought of the indiscriminate waste that takes place, high grading at sea, etc. Some captains are more careful / skillful but I’d say that’s the exception and the death toll is vastly under reported. (This is a particular problem for commercial fishing fluke since larger fluke – usually female – fetch so much more)

    And even if you’re trying to do it right here’s your competition: http://www.southcoasttoday.com/news/20160509/carlos-rafael-new-bedfords-codfather-indicted-on-27-counts

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  22. chris

    If you want a voice at the policy level to pump the brakes on industrialized fish extraction consider joining the Coastal Conservation Association, the Conservation Law Foundation and other organizations like that. The commercial industry is well represented at these meetings and on the advisory boards.

    And don’t stand for the Clean Water Act tossed in the can or for NOAA being stripped of funding, etc. It doesn’t make you a hippy or liberal or whatever to protect the fish and the watersheds that make rec fishing possible and enjoyable.

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    • Frank bass

      Protection witbin reason and thats a far cry from what we got noaa is destructive towards fisherman they know not what they preach penciling out peoples lives without any solid information to back them.up cod are back on the rise draggerman have shit for days and once there gone who you gonna blame a guy with a pole in his hands people make me sick all gungho nobodys go to tje store like a good little robot

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      • Frank bass

        Protection witbin reason and thats a far cry from what we got noaa is destructive towards fisherman they know not what they preach penciling out peoples lives without any solid information to back them.up cod are back on the rise draggerman have shit for days and once there gone who you gonna blame a guy with a pole in his hands people make me sick all gungho nobodys go to tje store like a good little robot

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  23. Billy

    They just raised the two no limit to four per day
    Good way to kill the tuna stock
    Not sure why commercial fisherman have so much power and less it’s under the table cash
    Draggers destroy the bottom clear-cut everything how can that be acceptable for stripers

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  24. Robert Pazdan

    You can all kiss my ass , I’m retired and on a fixed income and I’ll continue to catch and keep my legal limit to feed myself through the winter , because being disabled keeps me from getting out . Maybe you would understand better if you lost the use of both of your legs , and we’re 70 years old . Probably not , you not smart enough for that .

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    • Frank bass

      Im with you rob catch and grease old fella if i ever see you around ill be sure to throw you a fish enjoy your resources while you still can within reason of course but one fish wow castro living in rhode osland now i thougt he died

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  25. John

    I’m in my sixties and have fished recreationally on the Chesapeake and the Md and Va tributaries since I was a small child. Additionally I have fished for stripers to a lesser extent from North Carolina to Maine during the premium months. I have seen the cyclical highs and lows of the Atlantic fishery during this time. For anyone to deny that the Atlantic fishery isn’t in a serious decline is either in denial or has their own agenda. I have family, friends, and acquaintances, that run the gamut from commercial fishermen, sport charter captains, to weekend anglers. Every one of them is concerned with the declining striper population especially the last five years. The problem as I see it is each of these special interest groups wants to blame the other for the decline and isn’t willing to accept their own responsibility. To make matters worse those that are responsible for the health of the fishery have lost focus on their primary objective which should be the fish.

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    • Frank bass

      Once again no words about the all mighty pollution fight about that cause your problems have only just started keep your grass green and dont forget to spray for bugs

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  26. Frank bass

    Three fish a day at twenty eight inches most people wont even catch that cause fishings not that easy especially from land and the struggleing salesman at the bait shops and fishing stores would make more money cause people wouldnt loose interest in fishing i know alotta guys that hung up there poles for good because of these extremists that never stop pushing issues that are far passed the regulated goals

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  27. Frank bass

    Fish compete fpr food when you take one out the odds of survival increase for the schools and you get a healthy population when you stop pollution try to focus on the facts everybody not the fisherman im jerry springer take care and may the wind be at your back and the fish at your feet!

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  28. Phil

    Frank: give me your address, and I’ll send you a quarter so you can buy a period. Not everybody who disagrees with you is a liberal commie subversive. I’m pretty conservative, and I catch and release everything. By the way, calling the cops on lawbreakers makes you a citizen, not a rat. If someone sees a guy beating you with a bat, you want them to call a cop, or ask the guy to please stop, what he’s doing is wrong?

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  29. THE HAMMER

    IT takes a village. Commercial needs to concede or there will be no catch in the future. Recreational needs to concede or we will have no sport. People who catch to eat and survive…well, I agree, maybe the tags would work. One thing is clear, if we don’t compromise and work together, we will be like our ineffective government. I paid the $10 saltwater fishing fee, happily, as long as it went to preserve the ocean and fisheries. I would also donate time r money to help preserve my favorite fish in the world, the Striped Bass. Let’s find common ground. One thing we should be common on is the foreign fishery tankers parked off our shores sucking our fish and buying “by-catch”. They have destroyed their fisheries and they are here to destroy ours.

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